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What's the difference? by Ghostwalker2061 What's the difference? by Ghostwalker2061
Mommy, what is the difference between a boy Red Dragon and a girl Red Dragon?

I kinda decided to see if anyone can see the difference between a female and a male Red Dragon. The left is Tanya, the right is Jonathan. So, what's the difference?
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:iconlittlefiredragon:
LittleFireDragon Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Snout looks smoother on the female. Ridges on the horns are different. Can't tell if the female has more purple, but the male doesn't have tentacles. Male has bigger cheek spines.
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Godforoth Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014
amazing
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TheMonkeysUnkle Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013
The male dragon is hornier...
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Draco-McWherter Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014
that comment, mixed with that avatar......though a true statement makes for an amusing pun lol
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damienslayer25 Featured By Owner May 13, 2013
it also seems the the female's body size might be larger also the chin is just the chin the female doesn't have the chin spike like the male she has fewer spikes on the chin the male also has more spike on it the females horns are also different then the males the female has more spikes on her jaw also
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SilverwingtheFury Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Wow. The dragons you made are freaking awesome! Lots of details on the dragons. I love the way you scales and the coloring. It's what I call Epic Dragons. :D
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
you should be looking at the original images to make a comment like that. not the comparison image.
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Kingpin2007 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
1) Nose ridge in males is more heavily defined than females.
2) Males have longer chin spikes, which tend to be bare of red scales, unlike females.
3) The spikes lining the back of the lower jaw are thicker and fewer in males than females, and females' spikes tend to be pigmented near the end.
4) Males' chest scales, horns and spikes lean closer to silver than tan, as they do for females.
5) Tiger-stripes tend to be more numerous and more clearly defined in males than females.
6) Hair/(tendrils?) behind the ears of females, whereas males have none.
7) Horns are smoother in females than males.

To be fair, a lot of those could be explained away by age/individual deviation. Except for the hair/tendrils.
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Nemoricus Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013
Of course, after reading over the rest of the comments, I find out that most of the differences I spotted are individual variation, not gender specific.

My opinion on the level of detail still stands, and indeed, the attention to individual variations in addition to gender ones is still more impressive.
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
The difference is the chin horns. The female lacks the long chin horn whereas a male has a prominent horn.
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Nemoricus Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013
Slight differences in the pattern of ridges on their main horns, spikes on the 'beard' for males, tendrils for the female, and slightly different patterns of stripes on the neck. Also a reddening on the tips of the smaller horns for the female. The scales on the central facial ridge come to points for the male. In general, the male seems to be pointier than the female.

In general, the features of the female are smoother, but besides the tendrils the differences are a bit subtle. Unless you were familiar with the differences or saw them side by side like this, it would be hard to tell them apart from a brief glance. The odds of someone getting a chance to get a better look is of course directly proportional to the dragon's mood and general temperament.

I rather like this level of attention to detail. It makes a work feel more real and vivid.
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TheeFirstChildOfSin Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013
well aside from the obvious that ones' a guy the other's not, xD

Lesse, The tendrils you've stated are a Unique trait of Tanya, so I'll ignore those.

Male chin, jaw, and cheek barbs are more pronounced, and fewer while being thicker and hardier,

the females horns have some spiral seeming fluting to their growth, though it could be a trick to my eye concernign the spiral portion.

male scales are prone to standing up more and providing a rougher hide,

Female Dorsal fin spines are longer and curve and sweep in a much more pronounced manner than male dorsal fin spines.

The ridging on Jonathan running from the primary dorsal spine extends all the way to his snout beak, and is noticably more jagged and pronounced than Tanya's...

Hmm... The lighting while angled the same seems to be differant on them so i can't comment with surety on the sheen of their scales which could easily be affected simply by grooming habits...

Primary support on male ear frill is notably thicker and harder looking
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Netarliargus Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
Oh, that's easy, it's the eyelashes of course.
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Cute.
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spicydoq Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Whiskers on the female/ no whiskers on the male?
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Nope.
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spicydoq Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
>.< I'm not good at these kinds of games! Oh well, at least I tried, right?
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Russetstar Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The female has more twisted and smoothed head horns as well as all her horns have a hint of red in them. The male has more jagged looking head horns and scales, as well as a more torn neck fin and side frills. The male also has more jagged scales going from the nose all the way up to about half way up the top of the neck fin, he also has more spikes. However the female has blue tipped tentrels coming down, one backwards strip at the bottom of the pic, and she is lighter in color then the male.

Either way both are beautiful
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Ravenfire5 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
her horns are more twisted with a hint of red color in them, along with the spikes below their eyes and she as less spikes on er chin.
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draco2393 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
females first don't have as large defined spikes as the males but they do have the nice trendles adn also they have brighter colors.
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MoralChaos Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Student General Artist
Well i find a few things that are different between these two, based on these pictures alone.
-Female has tendrils behind her ear
-The jaw horns are different, Female has more of them, male only has three
-Chin horns are different.
-The two main horns, females are curved/twisted upward
-Horns on the female's fade into a different color at the tips.
-The noes is smoother on the females, behind the noes horn
-Chest plates seem different, more pointed on the females
-And the female just looks prettier then the male XD

That's all i can see that is different between the two
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Jony97 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
The main things I notice are different colors and shades. The male has more spikes, except around the eyes. And the female has those long red gold and blue strands of hair. Around the chin the jaw, the female has more spikes, or feathers, whole the male has large spikes. I notice things being different shapes. like the hornes, and the spinal fin thing seems larger on the female. All that and the different colors are what I notice.
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Letdragon Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
And this, class, was a lesson on telling a boy dragon apart from a girl dragon. Next time, how they do it. XD
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Manar-Darkwing Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Seeing as I own the D&D Draconomicon book, I can put this in. Now that I note that the female in specific is the only one of the female reds to have the tendrils that throws that out. I noted that the chin, and back jaw horns are less pronounced then the males and aren't as thick.
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Ultima-Wraith Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I'd say what it was, but it'd be cheating :p
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TheLOAD Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
In females the center chin "horn" is made up of scales/looks like a protrusion of the chin while in males it's a completely separate horn growing out of their chin. At least that's what it looks like.
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bullshark45 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
the female is bigger?
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serleena5 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
The female's horns have red tips, her horns spiral , her muzzle is flat, and she has "dredlocks".
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serleena5 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
And the male has a horn on the tip of his chin
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dracostarcloud Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
Lady dragons have dreadlocks and smaller horns.

I don't know if it was intentional of not, but at the base of the jaw the lady dragon has many small horns while the male dragon has three big horns.

It might be the lighting, but the lady dragon also appears to have a purple tinge on her back fin that the male doesn't have.
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I need you to go back and review this.

[link]

Right corner is a female. Malystryx.
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dracostarcloud Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
But what grade did I get on the test?
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CrowDrake Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's the tenticales on the female, the horns spiral a bit the males doesn't, and the way their bearded horn are different as well.
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
The tendrils has nothing to do with it.

And again, the spirals have nothing to do with it. It's like saying all girls have blue eyes.
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agdragoon Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Female: The horns twist rather then have the spiked ridges. Also smaller cheek horns infront of frills. A softer profile on the ridges between the horns and face. Chin horns are smaller. The females usually tend to be darker / have more purple/red or be a more blood color then males.

Male: More defined chin horns, larger as ell. Crest ridges along the face are more plated / bony as well as the under eye horns are thicker and a bit longer. Also the jawline has a stronger feel to it. Check bones before frill are thicker. Horns on top of the skull have a spiked ridge rather then the 'twist or curl' of the female. Also males tend to lack the high lighted blues or purples that can be found on females.
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Not really, the horns twisting isn't determine the gender. Males also have twisted horns too at times. It's like saying only girls have blue eyes.

But rather the chin horns are more pronounced on a male than they are on a female, because it's like saying only men have beards.
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Knight-Of-God Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The horns and the spikes, they're a lot more spiky and angular than on Tanya. There's also a lot more of em on John's chin then on Tanya's.
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Ortheka Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No spikes on the chin for the female dragon, also she seems to have her horns tinted red and they are less angular (spiky?) themselves. Maybe it's the angle, but the male dragon's neck appear thicker.
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Mehbrzd Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Student Digital Artist
i can see the subtle differences, like angles of certain features, softness of curves, overall scale difference.. anyway ME LIKE
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julian0123 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The horns.
Wait, a lot guessed it already...
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:iconcelestial-dung:
Celestial-Dung Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
You already know my viewpoints so in a completely needless aside...

How about a nice androgynous dragon in honor of David Bowie's new album?
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
*cries*
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Celestial-Dung Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
Ah come on. You may call the androgynous dragon Zizzie Horizon. It would be a skipper of stars, a flush of feathers, a dominant cretin of higher aesthetic standards. Zizzie could criticize the other dragons for their sub-standard attempts at flight.
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Fine.
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Eveillesort Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
Is there a difference in the chest scales? Or is it the point of view? The chest scales looks more plate to me than the male... Or am I mistaken totally? XD
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Ghostwalker2061 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Totally mistaken.

It's in the horns.
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:iconeveillesort:
Eveillesort Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
I saw after XD Sorry!
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larkabella Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
horn
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BlackChaos666 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hornstructure, spikecolors (and number of spikes maybe??), the...tentacles (?! XD).......mhhhhhh, atm I don't see any other difference XD
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Lily-Ash Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013
Hmm, let's see...

(SPOILERS)
The horns, those dangly things with purple in the end, the chin/jaw spikes, the scales going up its neck membrane,... and that's pretty much all that I could detect.
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