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Shadowrun Returns

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 8:58 PM

All because we have Thin Mints!



Ah, Thin Mints.  It brings back the fun of Shadowrun and how screwed up that time of year was.

So, enjoy some images that I've done that is dedicated to Shadowrun itself.

Manda the Dragon with the Gun by Ghostwalker2061



Malcho the Rain Serpent by Ghostwalker2061

Dunkelzahn the Mass Media Dragon by Ghostwalker2061

Skin coding Nesmaty
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He Lived Long and Prospered

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 3:01 AM


I'm guessing everyone knows about the death of Leonard Nimoy, aka Mr. Spock...from Star Trek, his notable role among many others.

And the atrocious butchering of that line he did in Wrath of Khan done in Transformers 3.

But I thought I'd show the last tweet of our favorite pointy-eared science officer.

I think it's beautiful.

A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP

I love it.

And my favorite Star Trek Movie...



Spock's Death and funeral.

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Snow's Fun again

Wed Feb 25, 2015, 11:44 PM


Okay, I take it back!

I take it back, Snowmiser!





I take it back!

Snow is fun again!

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A Christmas Tree in February by Ghostwalker2061

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Look how deep it is!

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Enough, Snowmiser!

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 9:19 PM


You know, I'm starting to think we're being attacked by Bizzaro-Snowmiser.

Because we just got snow again that covered the melt that happened yesterday.  And we're getting more snow Wednesday night.  



Damn it...

Fuck off, Snowmiser!  I know I love nostalgia and I kinda want everything to go back to the 1990s, but I didn't mean having the weather of the 1990s.

Or, perhaps, this really is the result of Mt. (We can't pronounce its name) Eyjafjallajökull.

Just like the 1990s snows were the result of Mt. Saint Helens.

*sigh*

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More Snow!

Fri Feb 20, 2015, 8:06 PM




Either Snowmiser....



Or Elsa...



Is to blame for this.

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The Culprit has been aprehanded

Fri Feb 20, 2015, 8:23 AM


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We now know who's been making it cold.  And she has been caught.

Hopefully this means it'll finally warm up.

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I am SICK

Thu Feb 19, 2015, 3:08 PM


So sick right now.  

Sinus infection.  With a fever.  And I can't talk.

Blech.

I feel horrible.

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Snowmiser set up shop

Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:57 AM




Everytime it snows, I do this.  I'm a little late on it, but yup, you better believe that we got snow!

"Snow in the South?!  NEVER!"

More Snow by Ghostwalker2061


Frozen Lake by Ghostwalker2061


Snow is pretty!

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Neltharion vs. the Sha of Doubt

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 9:12 PM


Rise of the Sha by Ghostwalker2061

I think I have an idea of what may happen with the fight between Nel and the Sha.

Well, I'm gonna have Doubt play into Nel's own doubts.  His doubts about himself, his past, Deathwing, his powers....that sort of thing.  Because Neltharion doubts himself a lot.

However, the plan is to have someone trying to give him some encouragement.

And the idea behind how I'm gonna do that is to have Neltharion, once he awakens, decide to take this battle a little bit higher....as in, let's take it up above the stratosphere.

There was an undone fight I wanted to do with Pyrothraxus, having him fight Shäzyx up above the stratosphere...

Well, since I'm not finishing the Crimson Dragon II, I decided to give that fight to Neltharion and the Sha.

For one thing, it would lesson the collateral damage.  Because much like what Goku and Vegeta say: He needs a lot of room to fight.

Like a barren wasteland...Piccolo's favorite place to fight in.  Or live in.

So, that's what I plan to do with Neltharion as well.  But there's not much of barren wastelands around Pandaria, so he's gonna take it up into the air.

Now, you might think, wouldn't Neltharion be too far away from his element to fight adequately?

Dude, Neltharion doesn't need to throw around the elements to prove his strength.  He's got his fists too.

But no, Nel's not gonna be too far from his element.  He's got water and air, especially ice in the atmosphere to call upon as well.

Or hell, he could take it deep into the planet's core too.  But I wanna do a high speed fight in the air.  Which Neltharion is capable of doing.  Get him into the air, and he can use the air currents to his advantage.  
It might be kinda fun...

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PMing Me on fanfiction.net

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 4:01 PM


So I got this from one of my buddies here on DA....

honestly, i don't think many people know how to PM you on fanfiction.net, but still it not that hard to figure out. but yeah, i can see how that can get annoying real quick when you review section is filled with nothing but useless rumbling. 

So apparently there's a bunch of people out there that aren't smart enough to push a single button that's on the front page of my fanfiction.net account...

So, I am going to be the nice person and show you all how to do it properly so that...this...

Comments that Aren't Relevant to StoryGuys, do I honestly have to tell you where these sort of comments go...
Mostly, I'm pissed off, because this wasn't an anon review and therefore, harder to get rid of...
But let me tell you something.  If you wanna thank me for inspiring you, that's fine.  I like to hear that.
But there is a time and place for it.
Putting that into the review section of a story you have no plans on reading in the first place...is NOT the place to put that in.
As in, for the love of God, PM me with that kinda shit.
Don't put it in the review box.  I like to keep things relevant to the story I'm writing in the review.
If you have no intention in offering critiques or comments, or anything related to the story I'm writing to perhaps help me get better as a writer or tell me what you like about the story...or what I need to work on...then don't bother saying anything in review box itself.
Just PM me.  
How hard is it to PM someone?  


Doesn't happen again.

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Do you all see the button now?

Push it so you can PM me on fanfiction.net.

Okay?

It's that easy.

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Comments that Aren't Relevant to Story

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 12:34 AM


Guys, do I honestly have to tell you where these sort of comments go...

Mostly, I'm pissed off, because this wasn't an anon review and therefore, harder to get rid of...

But let me tell you something.  If you wanna thank me for inspiring you, that's fine.  I like to hear that.

But there is a time and place for it.

Putting that into the review section of a story you have no plans on reading in the first place...is NOT the place to put that in.

As in, for the love of God, PM me with that kinda shit.

Don't put it in the review box.  I like to keep things relevant to the story I'm writing in the review.

If you have no intention in offering critiques or comments, or anything related to the story I'm writing to perhaps help me get better as a writer or tell me what you like about the story...or what I need to work on...then don't bother saying anything in review box itself.

Just PM me.  

How hard is it to PM someone?  

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Pandaria Rise of the Sha chpt 13

Sun Feb 15, 2015, 1:47 AM


Well, here is chapter 13!

Pandaria: Rise of the Sha Chapter 13

We get to see at last Neltharion meeting both Aysa Cloudsinger and Ji Firepaw.

For those of  you who like these characters, you're welcome.

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Happy Valentine's Day

Sat Feb 14, 2015, 1:05 AM


Ah, the day of love and chocolate.  

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Kittens and Neltharion.  

It's so cute.  Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart Heart 

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Is Neltharion a Gary Stu?

Fri Feb 13, 2015, 12:58 AM


Oh god, this is probably the most loaded question I have ever asked.

Seriously, it is.  I mean, where do I even get off asking such a question, right?

Well, I began to think about things while sitting alone in the dark with only my idiot brain to keep me company.  And also, I do this to make sure that I DON'T make Nel spiral down into that hated place.

So, to ask the question, let's really define what Gary Stu means.

Gary Stu is the male version of Mary Sue, a very hated word among many fanfic writers.  And it was coined from an old 1970s fanfic that details Lieutenant Mary Sue getting it on with James T Kirk, and that she was this perfect, can do no wrong, person who was awesome. 

Yes, this word is older than I am.  The term itself and its definition is almost 40 years old.  Nearly half a century old, people!

But it really didn't come to the fore of many fanfic writers until the invention of the Internet when fanfiction could be more readily read and easily accessed...rather than sharing some notebook of your scribblings during Algebra to your BFF.

I was guilty of that during my Junior High and High School days, sharing notebooks I'd carry around with my girlfriends and have them read them.

One of them took the liberty to start correcting spelling and grammar...

And the biggest joke ever made was when I made a horrible object switch in an old Pern fanfic I wrote...in which my Mary Sue character (yes I was guilty of that myself then) who rode a gold dragon, ended up throwing said dragon's eyes around its neck...

The scene was supposed to be my Mary Sue hugging the dragon "Throwing her arms around the dragon's neck."  But replaced arms with eyes, and it got funny.  And horrible.  I swear to God, to this day, both Lia and Isabelle never let me forget that huge mistake.

And I still have the notebook that has that stupid fic as well.

But I was a 15-year old teenager who was still trying to develop her skills.  So, writing a Mary Sue is often a case for either untalented or beginner writers who have yet to grasp the concept of character development and or study.

Ebony Dark'ness Dementia... by StolenWater
Subject A: Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way.

So let's define really what a Mary Sue is.

And I love this definition taken from this guy's video...



He states that a Mary Sue is: "A Character who is so perfect that they are never challenged by the narrative."

And that's a pretty simple, but excellent way of really understanding the core of what a Mary Sue is.

And really, what Neltharion is NOT.  

And there is where I get the people why state: Well, if you state that your character isn't a Mary Sue, then it's obviously that he or she actually is.

But really, to understand why I can in fact defend that Nel isn't a Gary Stu, unlike most people who do write Mary Sue characters and though claim up and down that those characters aren't...but in fact are...it boils down again to the narrative and why I have people like :iconrenndor: making sure that Neltharion NEVER reaches that status.



Now if we were to put Neltharion to the Mary Sue test, he just might well..."pass with flying colors" as in...yeah, he is, because well...the test itself measures whether or not the character is superpowered and can pretty much do anything he or she wants within their world.

Neltharion is a 13 million ton dragon god who can manipulate matter on a near subatomic level, and can lift a continent up as if he was lifting a down feather.  He is the representation of mass, one part of Einstein's Spacial Relativity Equation.  He is one part of the greater whole that makes up the very building blocks of the universe and an manipulate those blocks with such precision, that eventually, he can in fact turn lead into gold.  And when Neltharion combines his powers with Malygos, can in fact create matter-energy conversion.  As in, convert one to the other, and back again.  

With his mind.

Fire and Water by Ghostwalker2061

Neltharion in Wrath of the Warchief could in fact crystalize water and turn it into something I call Warm Ice.  As in, create the crystallization bonds that is needed to create ice in the first place without making the water cold.

He could in fact make molten steel if he wanted, and make said molten steel room temperature.  

Neltharion's true power is over the phase transitions of matter itself, utilizing his innate understanding of the Laws of Thermodynamics.  He can perform melting, vaporization, and perhaps eventually ionization.  He can also deionize any matter, condensation, and at last freezing.  He can also skip matter phases as well with sublimation, and deposition.

And to a lesser degree, because he can manipulate mass and matter, I have no doubt he can manipulate gravity.  Hell, he can utilize his own variant of electrical charges, meaning he tosses around lightning.  

Ki by Ghostwalker2061

I was not joking with that image.

The airships that Garrosh use in my stories are built from Neltharion's knowledge of how gravity works, and how electromagnetism works.  In short, yes, Neltharion could, if he wanted to, he could in fact repel gravity.  Or make it so much worse on a person.

He also can withstand the heat and pressure of being inside the core of a planet that's over 6.6 sextillion tons of mass.  Whereas most of us would be crushed and our carbon squeezed out to create a diamond.  And someday, he might be able to survive the core of a star as well...but we're not getting that close to crazy powers yet.

:iconrenndor: has stated that Neltharion's power, when measured by TV Trope's Super Weight scale...is in fact a Tier 5+, as in, he's between a 5 and a 6.

Tier 5 are characters that have abilities that can affect an entire world, either positively or negatively, or may even be a manifestation of a planetwith all that implies.

And a Tier 6 is Characters that are this powerful aren't so much characters as forces of nature, wielding power beyond observable human science.  

And Neltharion is sandwiched between those two Tiers.  


He is for all lack of a better term, the manifestation of Azeroth who can wield powers that modern science cannot even fathom, nor even try to explain.  Pretty much, when it comes to Neltharion's powers and how he shits on the Square Cubed Law...I think modern science has a better time of explaining black holes than Neltharion.

So, yeah, with all that power, that means he's a total Sue!  Right?

Nope.

Again, let's look at the definition: "A character who isn't challenged by the narrative..."

Neltharion is challenged to no end by the narrative.  He's not halted by the narrative either, more rather, he stumbles a lot because of himself.  Neltharion, regardless to his physical abilities, and physical nigh-invulnerable nature, is literally made of rice paper.

He is easily torn and easily broken.  Many, many times.

He's very easily the weakest character, in terms of strength that is...mental strength.  His character is strong narratively because of his weakness grounding him.

 Why?  Because when I started even thinking about redeeming Deathwing, before Romancing the Coffer was even written, I began to wonder what all Neltharion went through under the influence of the Old Gods would affect him.

If in the first chapter of the Coffer, when Neltharion is saved, he wakes up and is back to normal...with everyone treating him with respect regardless to what Deathwing did, and Neltharion himself is mentally strong and capable...then that would have made Neltharion a Gary Stu.

Having Neltharion come out of that unphased and the world just forgetting 10k years of what all Deathwing has done puts no challenge for Neltharion as a character.  He's not challenged by himself, he's not challenged by the other characters.

Pretty much all of that would have been no point to his redemption.  Why redeem him if you can't really explore what it means to be a villain who is redeemed?

Or saved...or whatever he is.

But in the Coffer, Neltharion comes out and the world isn't happy sunshine and rainbows.  Deathwing is gone, but his deeds are still there.  Neltharion's flight is nearly extinct.  And Neltharion himself is an emotional wreck who makes bad decisions, latches onto anyone he can because he can't stand on his own two feet, and has a drinking problem.  On top of that, nearly 60 thousand years of his life has been erased because he has lost that memory.  And he oversimplifies thing as a means to cope with the torment he went through.

And he has very little friends.

Hell if anyone that would better fit the Gary Stu thing is Thrall.

Thrall is the only mortal who, according to the books, was the one who saved Neltharion.  A mortal, who saved a god. When all other gods could not do the same.

That, within the context it's written, makes Thrall more powerful than the dragon who can bench press a planet.

Which is why we don't see Thrall much in my stories.  Because he's so powerful.  

Yeah, think on that for a moment.

Thrall is much more powerful than Neltharion, at least in context of what he did and how he was able to do it.

In reality, no, he's not more powerful than Neltharion...quite the opposite.

Within the context of Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way's universe, she's more powerful than Neltharion.

As the video states, Eboy faces each challenge and succeeds.  She is not hindered by any of the antagonists who oppose her.  And hell, she doesn't even change or grow as a character, learn some deeper meaning about herself, or the world around her.  She stays the same.  She is stagnate.

Neltharion on the other hand, despite having powers that make some physicists orgasm in happiness because they can play around with his abilities and see what he can do, or cry tears of agony, is still challenged by the world around him.  

His godly powers don't hand everything to him or make things easier for him.  In fact, his power makes things more difficult because he...much like Superman, walks around in a World of Cardboard.

And Neltharion's past also presents another challenge to him.  It's been three years after the Cataclysm, and the destruction Deathwing had cause is still very fresh in people's minds.  So many people are less likely to even befriend him or even trust him because of that past.

Varian, though having an uneasy truce with Neltharion, doesn't trust him but understands that it is better to have Neltharion on his side than not.  But that doesn't make them best friends.  Far from it.

Garrosh on the other hand knows that to conquer Azeroth completely, he has to completely conquer Neltharion.  And he knows that using brute strength against Neltharion isn't the way to go.  Neltharion cannot be bested by brute strength, only with intelligence and subtlety.  And because of this, he can challenge Neltharion...the being who commands an entire planet.

But no one can challenge Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way.

And the same can be said about Godzilla, which is why so many G-fans state that Godzilla can smash Neltharion's face in.

But when these characters are taken out of the context within their universe and placed onto the playing field against Neltharion...both characters will be instantly crushed under Neltharion's 13 million ton fat ass.

I guess I wrote this because of that idiot who stated Neltharion felt more like Draco in Leather Pants to him.  As in, a villain dumbed down for the fantasies of the female writer.

While I do gush on about how cute and adorable Neltharion is.  Because...

Neltharion the Worldmender by Ghostwalker2061

Dah face!

I mean who wouldn't?  But I've never soften anything when it came to Neltharion.  He may be cute and adorable, but I still pretty much deliver a lot of pounding to himself despite his cuteness.

Because he's so friggin powerful, I need to find more creative ideas in how to challenge him.

Hell, that's a sign of a strong writer, a writer who creates a very powerful character, but is still able to challenge that character even by having antagonists who challenge said character, but also are less powerful than said character.

It's why I keep equating Neltharion and Garrosh's rivalry to Superman and Lex Luthor.  Neltharion is being challenged by someone who is clearly his opposite.  Garrosh in my stories is smarter, more subtle, and has loyal followers that can back him.

Neltharion is as subtle as a minstrel show appearing at the Million Man March.

HE'S NOT SUBTLE AT ALL!  And he doesn't have many loyal followers.

He's lucky to have Malygos and the black dragons he's got.

So, there you go.




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Arguments

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 2:20 AM


Arguing with people on the internet is like arguing with a brick wall.

Though my wall can put up a better argument than most people on the internet.

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Quiet...

Fri Feb 6, 2015, 9:44 PM


Why the hell is it so goddamned quiet?

Do I smell or something?

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Neltharion in Leather Pants

Fri Feb 6, 2015, 3:33 PM


Not that I bet some of you wouldn't mind seeing Squishy in leather pants.

Neltharion the Worldmender by Ghostwalker2061

Cuz Look at dah face!  Heart 

He's so cute!  

But apparently I got this thing from one guy who seems insistent on trying to convince me and at least forcibly tell me that Nel deserved everything he got, he planned to betray the dragons from the beginning, and well, he was evil from the get-go.  

Because well, again, this is another example of someone who looks at the canon and really doesn't read between the lines nor understands the idea of being Morally Grey.

So, here's what he wrote.  And I want you all to tell me, is he right?

The idea that krasus was the one who gave him the idea is false (krasus sees the darkness and malice behind his eyes.) Neltharion was pushed but one he made the plunge he was in control.
Now that's something that always bugged me in the books.  I've read those books from cover to cover and I still don't get how the hell Krasus, being an ordinary dragon and technically depowered, could see the insanity and madness within Neltharion.  Especially if Nel was hiding it.  If such an ordinary dragon could see it, why couldn't Alexstrasza or Malygos?  I mean, that's the point of Malygos beating himself up, blaming himself for Neltharion's suffering.  Because he didn't catch it.

So what made Krasus so special?

And this is what our wonderful Math Nut had to say about it too.

For one, it's questionable how Krasus could see "darkness and malice" in the first place absent any confirmation bias. 

Setting that aside, seeing "darkness and malice" says nothing about how Deathwing will act on that, or whether his intents, actions, or the resulting outcomes are good or bad. Per canon, Deathwing's original plans were targeted at those he saw as Azeroth's enemies. This included the mortals, and reasonably so given the context-- the Highborne were at that time engaged in a project that would have destroyed the entire world: letting Sargeras and the Burning Legion through.

That is sufficient to justify fairly severe actions, including war.

One of Deathwing's goals was to remove the mortals from Azeroth in order to protect it, since he saw them as a threat. At the time, he trusted the other flights could then work together to defend it better.

Krasus attacking him-- trying to turn the other flights and Aspects against him-- was what convinced Deathwing that the other flights were a threat. Since if they would would be betray him, betray their duty, then Deathwing couldn't' trust them. 
Even the Math Nut can't figure out how the hell Krasus figured all that out just by one glance.

And he has a point. Neither Deathwing no Neltharion were aiming their original plans against the dragons.  They never plotted against the dragons, they were plotting against the mortals who were the threat.  Now, Deathwing planning on dealing with the dragons if they tried to stop him, no doubt he had a back up plan and also because he felt he was this...

Neltharion was the Only Sane Man there...

The only thing that sustains one through life is the consciousness of the immense inferiority of everybody else, and this is a feeling that I have always cultivated. — Oscar Wilde
Neltharion in my books, at least Nel 1.0 before the sundering that created Squishy Nel 2.0 and Deathwing, was always a Well Intentioned Extremist.  

He was.  Shit was about to go down and he attempted to do what he was supposed to do.  His methods were wrong, but his intentions were true.

This included the mortals, and reasonably so given the context-- the Highborne were at that time engaged in a project that would have destroyed the entire world: letting Sargeras and the Burning Legion through.

That is sufficient to justify fairly severe actions, including war.

That right there should tell us exactly how bad things were getting at the time.  And yeah, Krasus fucked that up big time by pitting Neltharion against the others and having Neltharion come to the conclusion that Krasus was going to tell the others he was evil when he had no right, no proof, no recourse to do so.  Krasus may have known Deathwing and what he did and all, but again, he was charging someone for a crime they had yet to commit.  I mean what is this, fucking Minority Report?  That movie where the government use psychics to punish "criminals" for crimes that they MIGHT commit?  Yeah, that's what this was.  

It was unfair and stupid in the movie, it's unfair and stupid here.

But what about those leather pants?  Well, here is where I wish you all to say whether or not this guy is right.

I interpret canon differently and your interpretation comes across as Draco in leather pants. It's trying to whitewash neltharion. A lot of what you did was interesting (hammers fall was awesome). But it comes across as fanon not canon. Canon neltharion planned to betray them before he met krasus.

Krasus saw that the affability was a facade; the whole "slander" came across as sarcastic mockery and his real reason (considering the spell was made to keep krasus from spilling the beans as it wore off once neltharion betrayed them.) the text implies that the whole "anti legion weapon" was a convenient cover story and its purpose was always to hurt the other flights. It's like anakin. He chose to embrace the dark side even as it warped him. Nel chose to embrace the old gods. 

IN some fandoms people downplay the legitimately evil villains because they look cool or are handsome (no I'm dead serious). Some people try to excuse the empire in Star Wars or mengsk even though mengsk was a pretty short sighted shitbag. Or Griffith from berserk. arguments sometimes remind me of those arguments (ie make the good guys evil and play down the monstrous baddies because they look cool or....some what.)

Maybe I was forceful but your arguments seem to veer into Draco in leather pants territory.

Is he right, folks?  Am I whitewashing Neltharion's past just because I think he looks cute?  Am I softening what he went through?  

Is anything he's saying making any sense?

Take a good look at this graph and see whether or not I'm whitewashing Nel.

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This graph is showing how Neltharion is mentally getting worse as the stories progress.  Is that whitewashing?

Yes, this is a fanon thing, but it is a fanon based upon the canon source and showing people what could and to me, should have been.  It allows us all to explore a character Blizzard decided NOT to explore or develop more.  They kept him cartoony villain with hardly any depth or backstory.

But what this guy is telling me, that's pretty much how he prefers it.  He wants to look at Deathwing with easy eyes.  Not think about what kind of character he is.

Making Deathwing and Neltharion more morally grey isn't whitewashing them, it's making you all think about what kind of characters they are.  Remember what I said in a journal once, the Player Character, the Adventurer tends to look at the world as black and white.  And what they do they may think they are doing for the good of the world, but in reality, they fucked it up big time.

Math Nut once said that to really understand and truly see Deathwing and even Malygos for who and what they are, you need to see them as RIGHT in their villainy.  

Because in actuality, they were.  They were right in their villainy.  

And bringing back Neltharion isn't whitewashing him, if this guy had really read the stories, he would have seen that Nel doesn't have it easy.  And when Mal comes back, he's not gonna have it easy.

Having these two characters around isn't going to make the world all sunshine and rainbows.  

But sure, let's think of them as again, cardboard cuttouts without any characterization.  Basically let's see them the way the Adventurer sees them.

And he wants to force me to prefer to see them as that as well.  Which is why I'm telling him he's wrong.  

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Pandaria Rise of the Sha chpt 12

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 3:09 PM


Well, good news, I have Pandaria Chapter 12 up.  Actually, I found that chapter 12 was getting a bit long, so I cut it in half.  We have the dream for chapter 12 and what will happen is going to be in chapter 13.

Rise of the Sha Chapter 12

So, enjoy...also, for those of you who are wondering the parallel of the dream and what could happen later with the whelps just being born....here is what we came up with when we first wrote it...

     

A colorful, nigh-uncountable pile of blackwhelps and bluewhelps sit watching Malygos, excited and enraptured. 

Malygos lays in the center of a complex and beautiful magic display, which is illustrating the story he's telling. A few whelps are interacting with elements of the display, participating in the story, or trying to pounce on the characters.

Malygos is bright and animated, his form glowing in accordance with the magic that surrounds him. His joyous mood makes clear why others joked about him being "Aspect of Life".

Sindragosa looks on, amused by her mate's antics. She is seated a bit away to give him space to tell the story, the elder dragons forming a circle around the whelps. But the deep love and affection for her mate, her family is clearly visible.

Neltharion & Sintharia are seated together, leaning into each-other. Neltharion has a wing draped over her, and his tail wraps her form. There's a clear understated, but unshakable & powerful caring between them. A few whelps are sitting on Nel's head, gnawing on his horns, or playing hide-and-seek among the caverns of his paws. 

Sintharia is enjoying the story as well, a few of the more timid whelps seated up against her and watching from a distance. She's also keeping an eye on the whelps in the center, making sure they stay out of trouble.

Neltharion's gaze captures the whole scene. He is watching over everyone, content. There's clearly great deal of love and affection between him and the other people in the scene, but especially toward Sintharia and Malygos. The fondness and trust is readily apparent in his posture and expression.

A few of Nel & Sintharia's older children have been drawn in by Malygos's display, a few younger black drakes completing the circle formed by the older dragons.

Heart Heart Heart 


This is a pleasant domestic scene, the type of thing that was likely typical once upon a time.


But the current reality is far different:


Heart Heart Heart 

Three lone, forlorn blackwhelps sit in a huddled pile within a cavernous, empty expanse. Wings, tails, and limbs wrap their tiny forms as they try and make themselves as small and unnoticeable as possible. They are watching Malygos in trepidation, shrinking from his gaze. 


Malygos sits in the center of a simplistic, dim magic display. The story is hard to make out and understand, the images blurry like text whose ink has run. The whelps shrink from elements of the display when they approach, the magic off-putting. 


Malygos seems animated and happy on he surface, but it's clearly a mask for the sake of Neltharion and the whelps. He's aware of his lack of skill and the whelp's fear. His form is dim, washed out. A hint of desperation tints his behavior, as he tries to put Neltharion and the whelps at ease with his broken magic. As he remembers what these scenes were once like so long ago.


The cavern is a empty expanse, forlorn in it's vastness. None are present aside from Neltharion, Malygos and the three whelps. 


Neltharion sits alone, downcast. He is collapsed on the floor, wings and tail drooping. His eyes track Malygos and the whelps. He does not remember these scenes consciously, but there is an unconscious feeling of wrongness— he knows that this is not how this should be, not how it once was—even if he doesn't truly remember why.


While he does not remember, the weakness of Malygos' magic display is obvious. And he can tell that Malygos is doing this for him and the whelps, to try and make them feel better. Malygos is guarding the true depth of his feelings well, but Nel can tell that he is unhappy at his lack of magic, at his inability to effectively cheer everyone up.


The whelps occasionally glance in Nel's direction, but shrink back if he makes eye contact. Despite their discomfort, they do not seek his support or protection. They prefer to remain alone, the cold stone their only comfort.


Neltharion the Worldmender by Ghostwalker2061


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The Woobie is Neltharion

Wed Feb 4, 2015, 5:22 PM


Well, it's official, I think we're about to hit rock bottom with Nel.  I gotta show you guys this and why I'm going ahead with the whole Malygos thing.  And the good reason why Neltharion needs it.

As we speak, though the Old Gods can't possess Neltharion anymore, it doesn't mean they can't erode away the already fractured mind that Neltharion has.

So, the Math Nut and I have come up with something.  Let me show you what very well can happen.

1) Eroded Away

The Old Gods' plans were to erode both personalities away. 

It's possible that if Nel remembers too much too fast he may be hit with memories of a lot of the Old God's attacks at once. If that happens and he doesn't have very solid emotional & psychological support, it's possible that 10K years attacks landing all at once will be too much, and the Old Gods succeed.

In general, if Nel is consistently mentally / emotionally loaded past his breaking point, he could end up here.


The end product of eroding Nel's personality away likely looks like somebody in a persistent vegetative state.

Most people on Azeroth would be quite happy with this outcome, since it'd eliminate the threat Nel poses. Unfortunately, this would also deprive Azeroth of it's Earth-Warder, dooming everyone.



It's possible that the stresses are too much, and Nel suffers a psycotic break of some time.

This can have many different manifestations.

One possibility looks like "Blarg! I'm a dragon!". That'd be superficially similar to Deathwing's world flyover, or Nel's actions after the mana bomb, but much more "ravening monster" in appearance. That appearance doesn't necessarily mean that Nelis unthinking. But he'd be somebody that's been pushed off the deep end and is acting out / striking out at the world in response.

The collateral damage from this state is massive for everyone on Azeroth.


3) Despair Event Horizon

It's possible Nel is pushed over the despair event horizon and enters a semi-permanent BSOD. This would look a lot like Malygos's 10K years of suffering in the Nexus, with Nel retreating from the world and eternally trapped in his suffering.


Most characters in-universe don't care if Nel enters these states, and many would be quite happy if he did. However, there are a few characters would fight these outcomes with every fibre of their being-- largely due to their caring for Nel. Malygos and Deathwing are the obvious examples, though Alexstrasza and Ysera would also try to help, at least at present.

Nel is seriously mentally ill and under enormous pressures, so keeping him from succumbing to these possibilities is a HUGE load on whoever would be trying to help him.


Ironically, Garrosh probably wouldn't want any of these outcomes either. In that case it boils down to Garrosh's pride. He'd much prefer Nel be conscious, resistant, but at his mercy-- an indication of his & the Horde's power and dominion over Azeroth. 

So, yeah, someone hug the squishy.  And if no one else is offering, the only one who can hug the Squishy is Malygos.

Do you get why I'm doing this?

Malygos and Neltharion by Ghostwalker2061

Neltharion needs someone to take care of him.  Malygos is the only one for now.


What is required now of the person who is going to take care of Neltharion.  Basically this is what is required now of Malygos...

  • Provide emotional & psychological support to Nel.
  • Guide Nel through his complex past and broken memory, as well as present and future challenges.
  • Help Nel recover his memory in a safe, non-destabilizing manner. Help Nel with any unpleasant reveals, or shocking memories.
  • Provide therapy with Nel, to try and restore & heal him.
  • Help Nel learn to be a leader again.
  • Support Nel's decisions.
  • Help mitigate the poor decisions Nel makes: minimize the damage to Nel, the flights' interests, and Azeroth
  • Lead the flight in Nel's absence, when Nel is "stuck" on a decision, or when Nel "runs away"
  • Go after Nel when he's hurt or runs away, comfort him, and bring him back to the flight.
  • Defend the flight's dragons, as well as their long term interests.
  • Protect the eggs, whelps and young, ensure they grow up strong and capable.
  • Be the second strongest network connection, help reconnect the flight with itself.
  • Help empower the flight, safely buffer Nel's power.
  • Provide the deep knowledge of Neltharion needed to enable the flight to effectively assist Nel with his issues, and lead them in Nel's therapy.
  • Make the flight more coherent, help them work as one unit 
  • Keep the flight from disbanding or falling apart.
  • Repair the connections between the black dragonflight and the other flights.
  • Act as an ambassador to other factions, represent the flight's interests.
  • Soothe over the anger of other factions, avoid conflicts and war the flight cannot handle--especially if Nel makes mistakes that anger other factions (e.g. Ironforge)
  • Teach the flight how to be Earth-Warders again: the techniques and experience they (and even Nel) have lost.
  • Teach the flight about their old culture, help them recover who and what they once were.
  • Reconnect the flight with their ancient duty and role, and convince the other factions the black dragons are in that role. That they are neutral but friendly; not monsters.
  • Find more black dragons, try to heal the corrupt.
  • Try to connect Nel to the Netherwing flight.
  • Find a way to cure the Twilight Flight, if possible.
  • Provide strategic and tactical decision-making, and teach it to other dragons.
  • Try to resurrect the bond between the Aspect of Earth and Aspect of Magic.
  • Ensure Nel & Deathwing successfully merge, but ensure Nel "wins" the merger.
  • Help uncover what happened to Nel & why: why was Nel 1.0 sundered, and to what end?
  • Help uncover the Aspects & dragon's true purpose.

Right now, I think Malygos is the only one who is willing to do that given how he feels Nel's current state is his fault.

Someone hug the Squishy!

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Oh my god, people, we are that stupid.

recent survey by the Oklahoma State University Department of Agricultural Economics finds that over 80 percent of Americans support “mandatory labels on foods containing DNA,” about the same number as support mandatory labeling of GMO foods “produced with genetic engineering.” Oklahoma State economist Jayson Lusk has some additional details on the survey. If the government does impose mandatory labeling on foods containing DNA, perhaps the label might look something like this:

WARNING: This product contains deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA). The Surgeon General has determined that DNA is linked to a variety of diseases in both animals and humans. In some configurations, it is a risk factor for cancer and heart disease. Pregnant women are at very high risk of passing on DNA to their children.

The Oklahoma State survey result is probably an example of the intersection between scientific ignorance and political ignorance, both of which are widespread.The most obvious explanation for the data is that most of these people don’t really understand what DNA is, and don’t realize that it is contained in almost all food. When they read that a strange substance called “DNA” might be included in their food, they might suspect that this is some dangerous chemical inserted by greedy corporations for their own nefarious purposes.

Polls repeatedly show that much of the public is often ignorant of bothbasic scientific facts, and basic facts about government and public policy. Just before the 2014 elections, which determined control of Congress, only 38 percent realized that the Republicans controlled the House of Representatives before the election, and the same number knew that the Democrats control the Senate. The public’s scientific knowledge isn’t much better. A 2012 National Science Foundation survey even found that about 25% of Americans don’t know that the Earth revolves around the sun rather than vice versa. Issues like food labeling bring together political and scientific knowledge, and it is not surprising that public opinion on these subjects is very poorly informed.

It would be a mistake to assume that widespread political and scientific ignorance are the result of “the stupidity of the American voter,” as Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber put it. Political ignorance is not primarily the result of stupidity. For most people, it is a rational reaction to the enormous size and complexity of government and the reality that the chance that their vote will have an impact on electoral outcomes is extremely low. The same is true of much scientific ignorance. For many people, there is little benefit to understanding much about genetics or DNA. Most Americans can even go about their daily business perfectly well without knowing that the Earth revolves around the sun. Even the smartest people are inevitably ignorant of the vast majority of information out there. We all have to focus our time and energy on learning that information which is most likely to be instrumentally useful, or at least provide entertainment value. For large numbers of people, much basic political and scientific information doesn’t make the cut.

Unfortunately, this is a case where individually rational behavior leads to potentially dangerous collective outcomes. While it doesn’t much matter whether any individual voter is ignorant about science or public policy, when a majority (or even a large minority) of the electorate is ignorant in these ways, it can lead to the adoption of dangerous and counterproductive government policies. In this case, excessive and unnecessary warning labels on food products could confuse consumers, and divert their limited attention from real dangers.

Although Jonathan Gruber was wrong to believe that American voters are necessarily stupid, he was right about the pervasiveness of public ignorance, and the dangers it poses.

UPDATE: In the initial version of this post, I forgot to include a link toeconomist Jayson Lusk’s post on the Oklahoma State survey. I apologize for the oversight, which has now been corrected.


Yes, people we are that stupid.  

News flash!  EVERYTHING YOU EAT WILL HAVE DNA!

I have no hope for this world, yo.

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