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Knaak retcons Neltharion

Journal Entry: Sat Feb 9, 2013, 4:51 AM




I have to say it one more time.

Leave Nel alone!  Nel doesn't need this.  He's already gotten the shaft from Blizzard, now they had to hire Knaak again to do his character, which by the way, he did horribly in the first three books which "detailed" his transformation to Deathwing.  I put it in quotes due to the fact that the detail was just one paragraph long in the book Demon Soul and he was pretty much a douchebag in all three books.  

You know what, I'll excuse the douchebagness of Neltharion in those three books, because in those three books, he was already maddened by N'Zoth and made into that calamari's  personal bitch.   I get it.  Nel was Mr. Nutcase in those three books.  But I kinda like to think that before he became Mr. Nutcase, he was in fact as noble and as wholehearted and kind and gentle, the gentle giant that I described in my own little writings on him...that he was originally like that.  But this...


Laughter filled his—or rather, Malygos's—ears. Kalec at first thought that someone mocked him, but instead, the laughter was aimed at the other proto-dragons by a charcoal-gray male a bit larger than most, who actually sneered at the others.

"Little hatchlings!" he bellowed. "Afraid of the sky! Afraid of the ground! Galakrond laughs at you for being afraid, and I, Neltharion, do, too!"


Implies that he wasn't!   That he was always a douchebag from the beginning.  Which leads me to ask, why did Khaz'Goroth in his infinite wisdom choose this guy to be the Earth Warder?  I guess being an Aspect is like being a politician, you can still be a douchebag and come out on top.

And CHARCOAL GRAY?!

The color of asphalt?  That charcoal gray?  Isn't Neltharion a BLACK dragon?  THE BLACK DRAGON?  There isn't a dragon flight called the Charcoal Gray Dragons.

Even in the War of the Ancients, Neltharion was described as black as night with gems and crystals embedded in his scales.  Diamonds, gold, silver.  A book that Knaak wrote.  My depiction of him was an exaggeration of that, but...yeah...

And again, Knaak, and Blizzard, Galakrond was the genetic template for the Aspects.  You said it yourself.  Alexstrasza said it herself.  But from what I read from the excerpt, that another posted pointed out, the Aspects were originally proto-dragons?  Neltharion was originally a charcoal gray proto-dragon?  As in those two winged wyvern creatures the giants of Northrend road upon?  

That was Neltharion before he became an Aspect?  Oh god, Nel has been retconned!  He's been retconned by Knaak!  First they had to blow him up into sparkles by a Kamehameha from his own weapon he created, brought on by a plot-hole and a desperate out by the writing staff, and then Knaak turned Nel into a proto-dragon?  Is there any dignity left for Neltharion?  Any?  What next?  We gonna retcon Neltharion and the other Aspects into little snails next?  Say they were giant slugs before Galakrond got a hold of them?  Poor Nel.  

And in other words, what do the Titans do to these five proto-dragons?  Do they snatch them up and tweak their genetics through horrible mad scientist experimentation and that's how proto-dragon Neltharion becomes Black Dragon and Aspect Neltharion?  Well, no wonder he doen't like the Titans!  

You know, my bit of having Neltharion being birthed out of an axlotl tank is much better than this.  By the way, Dune reference and no one caught it!  I just snuck it in.  And if those of you who know what an axlotl tank is, and what just birthed Neltharion from my stories.  There's your nightmare for the week.  You're welcome.

Another poster says it too and I agree, I do not suggest people read Knaak's work.

Why did you think I wrote this?



So I could have my Neltharion poke fun of Knaak's Neltharion.  As petty as that may sound, yeah, that was the purpose of Murozond's Gift.  That's why it's a BLAM fic, aka a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment fic.  That's what BLAM stands for.  Big-Lipped Alligator Moment.  

This is named after the random musical number sung by a big-lipped alligator towards the end of the film All Dogs Go to Heaven. A scene that comes right the fuck out of nowhere, has little to no bearing whatsoever on the plot, is WAY over the top in terms of ridiculousness, even within the context of the movie; and after it happens, no one ever speaks of it again.

You know, I should post Murozond's Gift on ff.net.  Just to see everyone's eyes pop out in confusion as to, what the fuck happened?!  

Anyway...

[link]

The link to the excerpt to the story Dawn of the Aspects by Richard A. Hack...I mean Knaak.

Apparently, Knaak read my Big-Lipped Alligator Moment story because instead of Neltharion going back in time, it's Kalecgos who does it.  Yeah, I caught you, pal.  Caught you!  Caught you!  Don't ever read my fics again, Richard.

Anyway.  I know, getting a little fumed over one little excerpt.  The book could turn out to be completely different.  But all in all, what can we expect from Knaak?  And another guy sums up my feelings as well.   WHY HAS BLIZZARD NOT FIRED THIS GUY YET?  Thank you, random poster, you've made my hero list.

This deserves a little funny comic from me.  My Neltharion meets Richie Rich Knaak.

Big Lipped Alligator Moment!


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:iconthe-big-g57:
I think people need to take a huge chill pill. While i'm no fan of Knaak, who cares that in one little excerpt that's apart of a 5 part ebook that Neltharion's a bit of a dick. Sometimes good guys can be assholes sometimes. Plus Blizz changes the lore all the time.
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:iconghostwalker2061:
*Ghostwalker2061 Feb 18, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Forget to read this line?

"Anyway. I know, getting a little fumed over one little excerpt. The book could turn out to be completely different."
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~peffy Feb 14, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Wow now that's just cruel beyond all reason. Knaack really destroyed everything
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:iconghostwalker2061:
*Ghostwalker2061 Feb 15, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Yes, he did.
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:iconpeffy:
~peffy Feb 15, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I seriously believe now that he is worse than m night shylmamalama
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:iconblooddragonjl:
knaack from warcraft lore = Matt ward from warhammer lore.

T^T the ultimate representation of chaos and ruinous powers in the lores we love...T^T.
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:icontriforce-dragon:
*Triforce-Dragon Feb 14, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Wait...seriusly?!

Now I am no expert but I recall that Neltharion as the Aspect of the Earth created mountains and shaped the land to prevent conflict between the smaller races by dividing them into areas with all the resources they needed. Once he turned into Deathwing he undid this allowing war to flow freely between the the races...

But now he was just a douche all along? Really? It is not enough they do that bull shit ending of Cataclysm where the Aspects for some reason is stripped of their power when the Dragon Soul is destroyed, despite this not being the case the last time it was destroyed.

Good god, so stupid!
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:iconghostwalker2061:
*Ghostwalker2061 Feb 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
As I stated to many others, it's because Knaak doesn't know how to write a deep character, who was noble and kind, and then destroy him mentally and physically, and spiritually in order to create the evil villain we know.

I've only published a couple of small short stories and even I know how to create a meaningful character people can become attached to and destroy that character to turn him into a villain. A lot better than what Knaak does.
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:icontriforce-dragon:
*Triforce-Dragon Feb 14, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It can be seen in the entire Warcraft lore in general, especially Illidan and Kael'thas from Burning Crusade who, as I look back now, seemed to be heralds of the direction they were going with the villains. Illidan was always one of my favorite characters, part of which was because he was hard to place. His lust for power often made him do questionable things, but at the same time his interaction with Kael'thas and how he saved the Blood Elves, along with his feelings for Tyrande, revealed that there was more to him than his lust for power.

But Burning Crusade came around and do I really need to say anything?
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Whoa... Wait... They did... What? No... Just no... Nel is not, WILL NOT, and CANNOT be gray... What is being implied here is that he would turn into Deathwing, do not pass Aspect, do not collect redemption (Well i know he will anyway but let me finish) From my understanding he fell from grace,that is what the ORIGINAL lore stated before he got his evil, corruptive, little hands on it.(and if i recall you have that tiny reference posted on one of your nel pics...) AND there making him out to be a total asshole? He WAS NOT a complete and utter asshole (ok he still kinda is but hes more a justified/snarky pain in the ass... At least in the lore *I* trust Read:Yours)
And while im on this tirade of a rant: Tell me how does gray associate with life and earth? Anything that you say would be a strech at best. I could understand the brown that was tossed around for a time, THAT one's believeable... Kinda...
But dont get me started on proto-dragon -> aspect... Even with all of the tricks of the titans why would they go for the children and modify THEM when they could go for the father and actually bild what they wanted FROM FRICKING SCRACH? tell me, what has proven time and again to be the most effective: A pre set recipe or one made from scratch? Yea thats what i thought.

Strange and convient how suddenly Nel is replaced... Haak, i believe that is called concept copyright theft... ... Sad excuse of a writer if they completely rip off someone elses concept... But if you really want to be evil and sink his happy gold plated ship (which i know you so badly want to do) go to a WoW-con that hes there and when hes talking about that book stand up and READ from your copy, the TRUE copy. He'll throw the 'nice to know that I 'inspired' you' bit THEN read the original date you wrote it... After that, give it about... Five minutes to be save and he would be completely Damned and shunned by the following: WoW boards/internet(well more anyway), youtube, Bookstores, then the coup de gra: the banishment from blizzard... ... Karma's a bitch 'ant she?
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