The Matter-Warder

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It started again with just a simple argument of who and what Neltharion is.

Then it went to the idea that Neltharion mentions to Khadgar that he wonders whether or not Azeroth's parent star can kill him off.

Yes, Neltharion is suicidal, but it is possible that the TItans may have built a "Cannot Self Terminate" protocol into him which would prevent Neltharion from attempting suicide.

So instead, he may ask Khadgar or anyone else willing to do it, to teleport Neltharion and or send Neltharion on a rocket to meet his end upon Azeroth's Sun.

So, here is the question a G-Class Yellow Dwarf Star be able to kill Neltharion off?

:iconrenndor: says no.

Various reasons.  The surface of the sun is cooler than the core of Azeroth, which is similar to our core.  And Neltharion can swim around in that.

So, the surface of the Sun will not be able to kill Neltharion off.

Neltharion does not need to breathe in space, will not succumb to the vacuum of space either.  So space won't kill him.

So, I asked, can the core of a main sequence yellow dwarf star kill Neltharion?

Again, no.

It would make him rather molten, and looking a lot like this...

Madness of Deathwing by Alonewolf99

Sans the armor and the tentacles, but very much like that.  

But again, NO.  It won't kill him

So I up the ante.  

Let's jump off the Main Sequence and fast forward billions of years to Azeroth's eventual natural death in the form being consumed by its own parent star when it goes Red Giant.

Again, no.

Outer layers would not kill Neltharion.  However, he would be screaming in pain due to the red giant's effects upon Azeroth.  And it would be a slow, agonizing pain.

But Neltharion just might live beyond his charge.

The reason why he would be able to survive these intenses has to do with his ability to control solid and liquid forms of minerals, like his own body.  In fact, I even gave a hint that he could at least survive a Red Giant in Wrath of the Warchief where Nozdormu shows him the vision of what will happen naturally for Azeroth.  The only thing still alive was Neltharion, in molten form, and then at last cooling down.

So I asked him with even bigger ante.  Let's throw Neltharion at Betelgeuse!  Which is a red giant that used to be a blue white, massive star.

Again, it is very possible.  And the possible case is...Neltharion just may be able to ionize himself to become fucking PLASMA!

Actually another way he can do it is how he can phase through matter.  Neltharion is capable of perceiving the sub-atomic.  And he understands that most matter is made of empty space.  And he phases through that by sifting his atoms through the empty space.  He's shown to do this a few times in the story.  One is in Hammer.  That's how he was able to escape Garrosh's hands and rise up behind him.  The other is Murozond Gift, where Neltharion does it a few times.  It's how he is able to listen in on the conversation by being the "fly inside the wall".

Deathwing phased the Dragon Soul to hide it from those not possessing the ability.  But Neltharion could find it and phase it out.

Neltharion can in fact grab hold of other people and phase them through with him.  He did this with Malfurion. And in the latest story, he is going to do the same with Khadgar.

So he could phase himself through the core of a dying star, no matter how big and it wouldn't harm him.  

So now here's the question.  Given Neltharion's major psychological issues, the sense of worthlessness, would he actually do it?

The answer is...yes.  He would phase himself through the core of a star if someone attempted in launching him towards it as an attempt at killing him off.  Regardless to whether or not Neltharion hired the guy to attempt it.

Because the Titans built in something, (theoretically) inside Neltharion that prevents self termination.  He can't commit suicide no matter how much he wants to.

It is possible that even the action of doing so would be thwarted by this protocol.

Which is why in the Raid, they had to "Unmake Deathwing".  However, since I'm trying to use realistic ideas on how to use Neltharion's powers...the stupid "Unmake Deathwing" thing cannot ever happen.  Because you cannot destroy matter, only transform it to something else.

And since Neltharion is one half of the Special Relativity Equation, then...yeah...you cannot unmake him.  Not even with the Dragon Soul.  Not even if you put a piece of him into the Dragon Soul to weaken him.  You cannot unmake him.

Hell, the Dragon Soul didn't have the power to kill Malygos and he took the full blast of the thing.  It sent him flying over the rim of the world, but it never killed him.  

So no, the "Unmaking" thing can't happen.

Unless you can find a Black Hole.

Galactic Grim Reaper by Ghostwalker2061

Yeah, nothing short of a black hole can kill Neltharion.

Kill him, but as recent studies show, the matter that makes up Neltharion won't be destroyed.

But we're looking at killing the Squishy, or how the Squishy could probably kill himself.  

Unfortunately the "Cannot Self Terminate" protocol might kick in and Neltharion may be able to avoid being tossed into a black hole, so...yeah...

If Nel ever asks anyone to help him self terminate...it's gonna be a problem.

However, this also means that Neltharion is more of a Matter-Warder than an Earth-Warder.

As in, if and when there is no Azeroth, but there is still a Neltharion...the Titans may have built in something inside of him to be connected to every matter in the universe.  He could actually go to another planet and guard it.  Or be connected to another planet.

Or hell, even help a planet that is already shattered to become whole?

Now you see what may just happen in my version of Warlords of Draenor.


And what Garrosh may have planned.  




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BlueRavenfire's avatar
well shit, nel being a dragon that can't killed by anything, even the strongest forces in the universe is certainly impressive, but it can also be a curse seeing nel can never commit sucide if he wanted too.
what about when a massive star goes supernova?